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problema di cauchy

Inviato: giovedì 4 gennaio 2018, 18:13
da trida
ciao a tutti,

stavo crecando di risolvere graficamente il seguente problema di cauchy
y'=xarctang (y^2)
y(0)=y0

ma non mi torna la derivata seconda con il grafico.

prova lo stesso ad allegare il mio procedimento
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grazie mille a tutti.

Re: problema di cauchy

Inviato: giovedì 4 gennaio 2018, 19:53
da Massimo Gobbino
Intanto sposto nella sezione giusta. Poi in effetti le soluzioni sotto non mi tornano ...

Re: problema di cauchy

Inviato: giovedì 4 gennaio 2018, 21:52
da trida
ok grazie mile.
comunque come suggerimento mi è stato detto che c'è un punto di flesso in nella parte inferiore del grafico, pero non capisco come possa essermi utile, e sopratutto come si è accorto della presenza del punto di flesso

Re: problema di cauchy

Inviato: sabato 6 gennaio 2018, 8:43
da Massimo Gobbino
Beh, come sono fatte le soluzioni sotto, dal punto di vista della monotonia? Cosa fanno per ? Come si comportano per negativi?

Re: problema di cauchy

Inviato: sabato 6 gennaio 2018, 10:36
da trida
per y>0 il limite di x--> +inf la funzione crescerà all'infinito o verra fermata da un asintoto verticale.
per y<0 il limite di x--> +inf la funzione crescerà fino allo zero e non oltre per il teorema di esitenze e unicità o si fermerà grazie asintoto orizzontale
invece per x negativi la funzione non dovrebbe decrescere

Re: problema di cauchy

Inviato: domenica 7 gennaio 2018, 9:24
da Massimo Gobbino
Uhm, il linguaggio non è il massimo, ma qualche idea forse c'è.

Le soluzioni sotto l'asse x crescono per x>0 tendendo a 0 all'infinito (applicazione standard del teorema dell'asintoto). Inoltre sono pari, quindi per x<0 basta ribaltare. Ne segue immediatamente che hanno minimo per x=0 e (a priori almeno) due punto di flesso, uno per x>0 e uno per x<0.

Ti consiglio di guardare le lezioni delle varie annate sugli studi qualitativi e fare molti esercizi, a partire da quelli più semplici (cioè autonomi).