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Forum Studenti •Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino
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Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: lunedì 20 novembre 2017, 21:15
da Valerio
Salve, mi sono bloccato con l'esercizio 3 del secondo compitino di meccanica a.a. 2016/2017. Una volta stabilito che V è un solido di rotazione attorno all'asse y ( ) come si può impostare l'integrale triplo? Questo esercizio mi ha messo un po' a corto di idee.... :oops:

Re: Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: lunedì 20 novembre 2017, 23:49
da GIMUSI
il primo integrale è banalmente nullo per simmetria

per il secondo è conveniente ragionare su una metà del dominio in modo da eliminare il valore assoluto e poi utilizzare le coordinate cilindriche

allego un possibile svolgimento :)

Re: Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: martedì 21 novembre 2017, 18:27
da Valerio

Re: Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: martedì 21 novembre 2017, 18:44
da Valerio
Ho provato a ragionare sulle simmetrie dell'integranda e di V. V è una specie di botte che si ottiene ruotando attorno all'asse y. Si ottiene appunto quella botte che ho cercato di disegnare col colore verde. Calcolare l'integrale di y su V vorrebbe dire calcolare l'area di quelle 2 superfici che ho colorato di rosso e blu che stanno sotto l'asse y perchè questo coincide con la funzione integranda (giusto :roll: ?!?) . Quella rossa è l'area (integrale) calcolata considerando le y positive su V, quella blu considerando le y negative. Sono 2 superfici uguali quindi hanno la stessa area e da questo si può concludere facendo le due osservazioni geometriche che mi dicono che l'integrale di y su V è nullo mentre l'integrale di IyI è 2 volte quello sulle y positive. Giusto?

Re: Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: martedì 21 novembre 2017, 23:42
da GIMUSI
esatto!

anche senza il disegno di V, che comunque è sempre molto utile fare o almeno avere in mente, dalla definizione di V si vede subito che il dominio è simmetrico rispetto a tutti e tre i piani x=0, y=0 e z=0 (e.g. rispetto al piano y=0, se un punto P di coordinate (a,b,c) appartiene a V anche P' di coordinate (a,-b,c) appartiene a V)

una volta che questo ti è chiaro, il primo integrale è necessariamente nullo perché y è dispari su un dominio simmetrico e il secondo lo puoi spezzare rispetto al piano y=0 considerando solo metà dominio perché |y| è pari

Re: Proposta di integrale triplo da compitino

Inviato: mercoledì 22 novembre 2017, 11:13
da GIMUSI