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Forum Studenti •Limite 9 riga 3 seconda colonna
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Limite 9 riga 3 seconda colonna

Inviato: giovedì 13 gennaio 2011, 15:36
da great_anthony
Salve a tutti,
spero che qualcuno mi possa aiutare...ho un problema su questo limite:
Immagine
ho provato a razionalizzare e sviluppare il coseno ma non viene come dovrebbe (-4/9)...
grazie a tutti anticipatamente!

Inviato: giovedì 13 gennaio 2011, 18:51
da dakron9
ho il tuo stesso problema.. nelle soluzioni c'è scritto -4/9 ma mi viene -8/9..

ti posto il mio procedimento che potrebbe esserti d'aiuto (cosi magari potresti trovare l'errore che non riesco a trovare :) )

innanzitutto faccio gli sviluppi con n=2 (cosi al den rimane almeno "x^2")

1) sviluppo le radici (ho scartato la razionalizzazione, dato che ci pensa taylor) e ottengo (se non ho fatto errori)

(1 + x) ^ [1/3] = 1 + (1/3)*x - (2/9)*x^2 + opiccolo(x^2)

e poi (questa è la parte su cui ho qualche dubbio sul risultato)

(1 - x) ^ [1/3] questo l'ho fatto calcolando le derivate (se c'è un metodo più veloce usando lo sviluppo di (1 + x)^"alfa" sicuramente non l'ho usato), e mi è venuto:

= 1 - (1/3)*x - (2/9)*x^2 + opiccolo(x^2)

lo sviluppo del coseno c'è già (eventualmente è nei pdf)

ora sostituisco tutto (spero si capisa, altrimenti "linko" un immagine)

2)
ps. i puntini mi servono affinche il sito non mi levi gli spazi, cosi la frazione rimane ordinata, inoltre metto l'opiccolo alla fine

....... 1 + (1/3)*x - (2/9)*x^2 + 1 - (1/3)*x - (2/9)*x^2 - 2 + opiccolo(x^2)
lim----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
x->0...1 - 1 + (1/2)*x^2 + opiccolo(x^2)

vanno via:
1) gli "uni" con il -2
2) + (1/3)*x con -(1/3)*x
3) al denominatore va via 1 con -1

rimane

....... - (2/9)*x^2 - (2/9)*x^2 + opiccolo(x^2)
lim---------------------------------------------------------
x->0.........(1/2)*x^2 + opiccolo(x^2)

-(2/9) - (2/9) fa -(4/9) (non vedo perchè non dovrebbe)

poi raccolgo le x^2

....... x^2*[-(4/9) + opiccolo(x^2)/x^2]
lim-------------------------------------------------------
x->0.........x^2*[(1/2) + opiccolo(x^2)/x^2]

1) si semplifica x^2 al num con x^2 al den
2) opiccolo(x^2) / x^2 tende a 0 per x->0

mi rimane -(4/9) / (1/2) e ottengo -(8/9)

ma la soluzione è un altra... se c'è un errore allora vi scongiuro: ditemelo!! così è un problema in meno che mi rimane in testa :)

edit: ps: forse il "trucchettino" per (1 - x)^"alfa" era quello di mettere y=-x ma l'ho scoperto ora... meglio tardi che mai (7 giorni!!!)

Inviato: giovedì 13 gennaio 2011, 22:13
da great_anthony
scusa ma il fattoriale degli sviluppi delle radici li hai considerati?

Inviato: giovedì 13 gennaio 2011, 22:24
da great_anthony
ma...il mio problema sono sempre le radici! quando le sviluppo mi rimane sempre 1+1-2 e quindi il numeratore va a farsi benedire!!

Inviato: venerdì 14 gennaio 2011, 8:26
da Blacks
sono un po' sbagliati gli sviluppini appunto. Provate a rifarli, vengono

1 + x/3 -(x^2)/9 + o(x2)
1 - x/3 - (x^2)/9 + o(x2)
e il coseno 1- (x2)/2 + o(x2)

poi facendo i calcoli viene -4/9

Inviato: venerdì 14 gennaio 2011, 9:42
da dakron9

Inviato: mercoledì 2 febbraio 2011, 17:06
da Fether

Inviato: domenica 6 febbraio 2011, 0:11
da dakron9

Inviato: lunedì 7 febbraio 2011, 18:53
da Fether